MyDD :: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos

Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos

by BPK80, Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:30:58 PM EST

Lord of the Flies is all over Dailykos today as the shocking groupthink cannibalizes a new target: Markos Moulitsas Zúniga.

Markos took the daring but admirable step of pointing out the obvious, namely, that Barack Obama is human and that not everything the man says is completely perfect or unassailable. Markos disagreed with Barack Obama's unusual decision to appear on Fox News for political gain, a stance seemingly at odds with his earlier delegitimization of that "news" network.

Immediately afterwards, a community disapproval and "official" disownment of Markos' words skyrocketed up to the recommended list. We should all take caution as we're seeing such irrational attachment to this icon of change, Barack Obama, that even the most innocuous and objective forms of dissent, questioning, and criticism have been villified. This is a recurrence of the same groupthink that supported George W. Bush. Evidently, so many people were so deeply touched by Barack's earlier cinematic performances, that their devotion now eschews logic.

The meltdown and pervasive sense of anxiety underscores a dramatic change in the dominant narrative's tone. They know Obama's mathematical temporary lead is wearing thin and the untimely reappearance of Reverend Wright will probably govern the public dislogue for the remainder of the week and the twilight moments of Barack Obama's campaign.

No wonder he doesn't want to answer questions...

Note: the original footage of the Waffle incident now has embedding disabled by request. This was the only one I could get so pardon the little Hamas fear-monger in the beginning; the focus is the Waffle incident which shows beyond any doubt Obama's indignant refusal to answer difficult questions.

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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 3)

The Kos crowd are very largely crazy. No that's not the right word. Stalinist is the right word in that they go insane if anyone dissents. I've just finished reading a fascinating but horrific book called The Whisperers about life in Stalin's Russia. Kos group think bears a more than passing resemblance believe me.

by ottovbvs on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:36:35 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 2)

Indeed, something has gone terribly awry there. I used to thoroughly love that place.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:51:40 PM EST
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We warned them. (2.00 / 4)

They thought we were deluded. Now I am laugh out loud.

That's it, baby; let's go win this election!

by Beltway Dem on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:03:19 PM EST
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Re: yes! (1.50 / 2)

Its a lot like going into a Tejas Darlin' diary here, or you know one of your diaries.

by Socraticsilence on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:57:15 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 6)

if i cared, i'd be posting over there.

the place reminds me of the the deepest part of the ocean. all those weird fish with lights on them and huge mouths - they're all carnivores in that ecosystem.

and they're running out of food.

by campskunk on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:37:26 PM EST

Bottom feeders. (2.00 / 4)

That's it, baby; let's go win this election!

by Beltway Dem on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:03:52 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 3)

I lost my ratings ability because I wouldn't tow the Obama line...and subsequently requested a refund of my subscription...which I received with a banning.
Like I give a shit!

by SoCalVet on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:08:21 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 2)

heh! they kept mine. well, that's ok. i literally paid money to get the hell out of there, and it was worth it.

by campskunk on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:32:59 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (1.00 / 0)

DKos: Shut it down! It lost its way. It lost its purpose.

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:39:47 PM EST

Not gonna click (2.00 / 1)

Can someone summarize what Markos' post actually said?

99% perspiration

by DaveOinSF on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:40:39 PM EST

Re: Not gonna click (2.00 / 5)

"Yo people, Obama isn't beyond reproach or criticism. I want him to win the primary and the general, but I ain't gonna keep my mouth shut and carry his water when I disagree with him. If you have a problem with it, you might want to go elsewhere, because this is the reality based community, not the "Obama can do no wrong" community. The dude is human, believe it or not.
What's funny to me is that the same people who have criticized Clinton for legitimizing Fox, or who helped fight to kill the Fox News Democratic debates, are now busy rationalizing Obama's decision to appear on the network."

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:52:55 PM EST
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Re: Not gonna click (none / 0)

That wasn't his original post, that was his response to the lesser of the "official" diaries.

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!

by Drewid on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:54:08 PM EST
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It's still an excellent summary... (2.00 / 0)

... of his original post.

Those among us who have supported Obama as the least evil of the financilly-capable Democratic candidates have always know that he would disappoint from time to time.

At least (for now) none of Obama's campaign officials are making promos for Fox News.

Ignorance is weakness. Get strong.

by tbetz on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:07:17 PM EST
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Re: Not gonna click (2.00 / 1)

Thanks for clarifying. The post I quoted above was his own statement for the midday thread that coincided with the huge rise of the first "official" diary. It's more succinct so I chose it.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:12:45 PM EST
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Shocking! (2.00 / 1)

People disagreeing about something related to politics!?!?!?!?!?

SHOCKING!

by Democratic Unity on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:43:03 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 2)

As many have said privately & publicly, The Left Wing of the Democratic Party is No Different than the Right Wing of the Republican Party.

Left wing liberals are just the same as right wing conservatives.

Just a different agenda, different views, but both sides are the extremes of most americans.

Both Left Wing & Right wing are way way out of touch with most americans who are in the Middle.

Its the same zealots with Blinders on 24/7.

It is groups like Kos which will cause the defeat of Obama if he is the nominee.

One thing about the Left & the Right. No matter how many times the american reject them, they still don't understrand.

Ask Dukakis,Mondale, Ted Kennedy, McGovern, Jackson. If you want something very recent, ask why Dean was rejected by majority of dem voters.

Ask why Lamont was rejected by Blue CT's voters.

Our party will never ever win a Presidential election in the near future as long as the left wing picks their horse as the nominee.

Joe & Jane in middle america will Reject that candidate.

by libdemusa on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:43:58 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 1)

I love being called a Left winger.

Unlike most democrats, I am not ashamed of my beliefs and convicitons.

And thats why I love Obama, he has not hidden from being a Democrat.

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by GeorgeP922 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:46:12 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 3)

Obama's voting record moved to the left this past year. He sacrificed his principles to sell himself to the left wing.

Fight for Democrats in Congress.

by owl06 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:29:27 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (none / 0)

Excellent analysis and well stated. Uprated!

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:53:32 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 1)

Wow, what a stupid thing to post on a progressive site. But I sure to "agree."

Boy, I just HATE those terrible "liberals" with their universal health care proposals and their crazy ideas about not fighting stupid wars that don't serve US interests, but do manage to cost us dearly in blood and treasure. Yep, those awful "liberals" and their ideas about a progressive tax code and insistance on balancing the budget. Truly a bunch of crazy people that are so completely out of touch that they think the strong national majorities that support all of these ideas actually want us to follow through with such "liberal" policies.

Oh, and kudos for your lame criticism of Lamont. He reallyl was a winger to think that it was smart to run against an unpopular war that the majority of his state was against. Especially given that Joe L. kept all his promises about being a loyal democrat, working to elect a democratic president, etc. Wait...

by HSTruman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:03:17 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (1.00 / 3)

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwn

Wow, the most boring diary I read all weak, I think I might go and read Alegre to wake me up.

Unable to rec or rate

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

by GeorgeP922 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:44:42 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 2)

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:56:22 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (none / 0)

I'm of the Cornell West mentality. Lets get him elected and spend the next 4 years yelling at him at every turn.

Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.

by CardBoard on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:45:09 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (none / 0)

You missed the more official thread.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/28/ 14536/2145/526/504941

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!

by Drewid on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:46:16 PM EST

Your diary is awesome and also I hate it. (2.00 / 1)

You post a diary about Obama's decision to go on Fox and answer tough questions, then close by saying Obama won't answer questions.

You sound confused.

by jdusek on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:46:45 PM EST

Re: Your diary is awesome and also I hate it. (2.00 / 1)

Obama didn't answer any difficult questions convincingly on Fox. He used it to pretend he was more "Republican" on some issues than his detractors would give him credit.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:55:37 PM EST
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Re: Your diary is awesome and also I hate it. (2.00 / 1)

I thought his answers were good, but that's beside the point.

Your diary is about Obama's willingness to answer Fox's questions, but you conclude by saying he doesn't want to answer questions.

You contradict yourself.

by jdusek on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:01:43 PM EST
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Re: Your diary is awesome and also I hate it. (2.00 / 2)

No, my diary is about the groupthink at the DailyKos site turning on Markos and the defiant hatred towards criticism and questioning inhering many of his supporters.

It's a completely different focus than Barack's decision to go on Fox. That's totally ancillary.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:15:38 PM EST
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Re: Your diary is awesome and also I hate it. (none / 0)

That doesn't explain your conflicting messages that Obama is a) willing to appear on Fox to answer questions, and b) not willing to answer questions.

by jdusek on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:29:55 PM EST
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Re: Your diary is awesome and also I hate it. (none / 0)

"[Barack is] a) willing to appear on Fox to answer questions"

That's not my message. I barely touched upon that. My diary is nowhere near as self-contradicting as you would like to imagine it to be.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:41:54 PM EST
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Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (none / 0)

The members of Kos who behave this way are zealots. They don't like anything negative being said about their candidate. With that said, there are a number of those types here, from both camps.

This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!

by venavena on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:48:09 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (1.00 / 2)

yikes! that is some scary business at the dkos. it may not be a cult, but it walks and talks like one.
i wonder how kos keeps up traffic over there. first they ran off half the party, now the obama half is out for his head.

i hope hes made some sound investments...

by the Walrus on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:51:34 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 1)

dKos will be just fine.

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!

by Drewid on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:52:57 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (1.66 / 3)

He didn't run off anyone. The Clintonites simply got pissy and stormed away in a snit. Not Markos' fault.

by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:56:00 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 2)

Harumph.

Determining that it is in your best interest not to go to a place where you are constantly derided and denigrated is not being 'pissy', nor is it 'storming off in a snit'.

It's good common sense.

I say let the orange sewer stink in it's own juices.

Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?

by emsprater on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:13:32 PM EST
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I love how you people here (1.25 / 4)

apparently think only people who agree with the blog administrator should post here. That a particular blog is nothing more than a big group hug.

Seriously get over it. People criticize Markos on Dailykos quite frequently. The only one making him out to be larger than life are the people here who resent his support of Obama.

Which he proved, quite effectively today, is not blind hero-worship, such as the support here of people like Alegre, Campskunk, TexasDarlin, Linc, and several others...who simply don't have it in them to criticize their candidate. if Hillary were to shoot Chelsea, we'd see diaries from each of them on why Chelsea deserved it.

Markos supports Obama...that doesn't mean he can't criticize him, nor does it make him a hypocrite for doing so. Several people on here don't support Clinton, they hero-worship her. Big difference.

by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:55:03 PM EST

Re: I love how you people here (2.00 / 3)

That's not the point.

Markos can criticize all he wants. This diary isn't about him; it's a focus on the horrible reaction he got from his own website merely for stating an opinion that wasn't 100% flattering and kowtowing to Barack Obama.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:57:52 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (2.00 / 1)

and if Jerome were to post a similar article about Clinton (which he should have long ago, on either Johnson or Ferraro), he'd get the same treatment from a portion of this community.

A portion of this community simply can't stand any criticism of Hillary Clinton, no matter how mild or how fair. Apparently some at Dkos can't handle the same when thrown at Obama.

So both sites have nutbags for their candidates...what exactly is the story here?

by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:00:03 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (none / 0)

You guys sound so much like Fox on here.

I think alot of people on this site hate Democrats for some reason.

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by GeorgeP922 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:02:03 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (2.00 / 1)

How do I sound like Fox? That's a pretty shallow argument.

by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:08:08 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (2.00 / 1)

I don't think we would have "official" diaries condemning Jerome here.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:16:53 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (none / 0)

Not yet. B/c Jerome has yet to write a post criticizing Clinton...something he should've done long ago. Shaheen, Johnson, Ferraro...take your pic. Bosnia. 3am Ad, Bin Laden Ad, take your pic.

Any one of those he could've taken initiative and called Clinton out. He either won't or can't. If he showed some brass and actually did criticize clinton, you would see the diaries pop up from the hardcore Clintonites whining about it.

by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:20:57 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (2.00 / 2)

Clinton is running a determined campaign for president. The only issue you raise that was out of bounds was Bosnia. That was FLAT-OUT stupid.

I wish she hadn't done that. Still, I choose her, flaws and all.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:43:29 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (none / 0)

You thought the comments from Shaheen, Johnson and Ferraro weren't out of bounds? Particularly Johnson, insinuating that Obama was a druggie?

That was fair game? Give me a break!

by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:52:39 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (2.00 / 1)

Can you tell me where we can buy that magical duct tape that stops people from talking?

Damn I could have used it a number of times when my kids were younger.

Fact is I could probably use it now on a few people.

by J Rae on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:54:15 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (2.00 / 1)

To be fair, there is quite a bit of hero worship of Obama too.

Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!

by Drewid on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 04:59:50 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (none / 0)

Indeed there is, and we call it out when we see it...the difference is, the Hillary people either won't or can't. Either way, it's a bad situation.

by southernman on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:08:59 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (none / 0)

Part of the reason that I disliked his reaction to Obama going to Fox News is because it was almost like he wanted Obama to carry his personal battle against Fox on for him.

Obama saw an opportunity to reach out to a different segment of America for the general and he took it.

You know, that whole we don't have Red States (networks) and Blue States (Networks) thing...

If you are not voting Obama, please let me know so I can replace your sorry ass with another new voter.

by Darknesse on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:27:06 PM EST
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Re: I love how you people here (2.00 / 1)

You sound angry and bitter.

Are you from Pennsylvania?

by Scotch on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:23:46 PM EST
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Fox is Un-American (none / 0)

I am with Markos, Obama squandering GREAT political capital by talking to them.

He could hold onto it for longer if he refused future interviews, and especially ZERO interviews with Hannity or O'Reilly (simply would insult Obama's intelligence).

I don't see Fox news as much worse than any state run TV.

Lets not forget this fox news gems:

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by GeorgeP922 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:00:54 PM EST

Re: Fox is Un-American (none / 0)

No, no, no, they are "fair and balanced". Terry said so.

by jdusek on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:05:00 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: Rev. Wright Nukes Obama (2.00 / 1)

Heh. Rev. Wright is a nutcase. And, Sen. Obama is linked to him through his 20 years of association, his marriage, the baptisms of his two daughters.

And, Wright nuked Barack Obama over the past 2 days, repeatedly, and publicly.

This is VERY BAD for BARACK. It's all over the evening pundit shows. "The vultures are circling above Obama" they say. "The hour between 9 and 10 this morning is the moment Obama's campaign was doomed," they're saying.

"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Harry S Truman

by Tennessean on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:09:44 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: Rev. Wright Nukes Obama (none / 0)

When Obama, from a teleprompter, read his well-written race speech, I tried to warn his crowing fan base at Dkos that it was only a Band-AID. We now see that these scandals don't go away permanently just because you give a speech. As I said before,

Like diamonds and herpes, Obama revelations are forever.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:19:07 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 5)

Kos has no one to blame but himself. He let the maniacs take over a long time ago. The wheels are coming off. Sad, but true.

by Ky Dem on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:19:08 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 3)

I think that is true and very sad. I always thought right-wing radicals were the most impervious to logic, but I see it equally plagues both extremes.

I suppose he'll always have a home here, no?

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:45:05 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 1)

Snort!

by Scotch on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:21:24 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 3)

It's Stalin isn't without Stalin. Markos is too weak to take control over his own house.

Fight for Democrats in Congress.

by owl06 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:31:01 PM EST

I've been sent into exile from there (2.00 / 4)

good thing though, it's starting to look like Paris circa 1794 over there.

The DKos guillotine is stayin busy this week.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:34:26 PM EST

LOL! (2.00 / 3)

They kill you for saying "hey guys & gals, the Emperor has no clothes."

Now they'll kill you for saying, "Well yes he is fully clothed but I think his socks are purple."

("No his socks are maroon! How dare you deviate!")

SLICE.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:46:48 PM EST
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Re: LOL! (2.00 / 1)

Look at the debate over Rev. Wright...you got half the people there saying "He's gotta shutup he's destroying our candidate" and other half attack them as weak and stupid and trying to save Wright's reputation while unknowingly destroying Obama...it's a madhouse.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:52:07 PM EST
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Re: LOL! (none / 0)

Exactly. The Wright debacle is the only reason I went to that site today. I knew the news was bad for Obama's fan base and I wanted to see whether the fan base was ignoring it or paying attention. I still don't have an answer to that.

Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.

by BPK80 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:09:29 PM EST
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Re: LOL! (2.00 / 1)

They're paying attention, but they're bickering with each other on why it's happening. You got the realists, the reason I was forced into exile, saying Obama's campaign is faltering and he's at risk of losing it, and it's Wright's fault, Obama's fault, their fault

and then you got the fanatics who are trying to keep the sun shining at any cost, screaming down the realists, blaming Hillary, the media, and everyone else under God's blue sky and constantly reminding people that they won't vote for Clinton, as if it really mattered...I know more Clinton supporters who won't vote for Obama

so basically McCain gets to cross off President from his bucket list.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:23:48 PM EST
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Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (none / 0)

Actually, that's the way that a blog should function - the owner states an opinion, some disagree. That it doesn't happen here all that often is not necessarily praiseworthy.

by rfahey22 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:47:01 PM EST

From day one at dKos .... (2.00 / 4)

I constantly had the feeling I was an extra on the set of a bad 'B' movie from he 1960's called "Wild in the Streets".

Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?

by emsprater on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:08:32 PM EST

Re: Meltdown: DailyKos turns on Markos (2.00 / 3)

So Obama invited the bunch who are unhappy with him to go someplace else if they don't like the Reality Based Community on DailyKos. Lol. There is so much that is funny about that. How many people has he invited to leave his blog in the last 6 months? Hundreds, i think hundreds of them! I mean where would they go? There isn't any blog that is more pro Obama than DK, except maybe the one on the Official Obama website. And I hate hate hate, the phrase Reality Based Community. I have always hated that saying. It is soooooo phony, and strange for people to think that their reality is the only reality. Anyway, thanks for letting me get that out of my system. Markos always makes me laugh, but in an ironic sort of way.

by Scotch on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:47:09 PM EST

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